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I am incredibly frustrated....trying to create mobile version of my sites for iPad, iPhone, Droid, etc.
But still the SSP mobile functionality is sorely found wanting in this regard.
I am at a complete loss to understand how such an amazing photo/video gallery solution does not develop something we can deploy to iPad/iPhone.
And no news....no updates...no hope in sight?
I am searching for another option now...but seriously moving all of my galleries and albums at this point makes me cringe.
I just can't believe you guys wouldn't be trying to move forward with the incredible demand for the millions who now use iDevices and other mobile devices for their web browsing and can't use Flash. I am one of those who just loves Flash....but unfortunately, it's abundantly clear Apple has no intention of ever supporting it - hence the desperate need for some updates to SSP.
If anyone out there has any ideas about making this transition...please share.
I absolutely believed after the wonderful experience I've had with SSP for the last 5+ years....that they would be at the groundbreaking forefront of offering something in this regard long ago.
Sad sad sad day for me......
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Er, I can view my galleries no problem on my iPhone. SSP added HTML5 functionality quite some time ago via Director.
Which is well worth using for it's great content management system anyway.
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yes....I am aware of the mobile poster option...but the reality is that it functions like a stop gap measure, not a pristine media delivery system as SSP has for Flash. I assumed SSP would be evolving with the times and shifting to truly develop a mobile counterpart to their amazing Flash solution.
And I am still hoping this is the case...but the lack of any updates or statements from them addressing the mobile issue leave me wondering if they are just going to let it go or if there is some kind of big plan in the works behind the scenes... in the meantime, I have to continue exploring other options to make our websites mobile friendly
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I'm with you. Flash is on it's way out and has been for some time now. I will have to explore other options now that I am rebuilding my websites.
An answer to this would be helpful!
thanks
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From what I've been able to figure out, they are quietly working on something called "koken" (http://www.koken.me/). This would probably be something like PhotoShelter, but there is no release date set.
I just finished moving from SSPDirector+SSPFlash to SSPDirector+Galleria. It's been frustrating but I too needed iDevices support, and have been able to do something decent. Check out http://ovidiu.tabacaru.ro
I suggest downloading the API kit for Director, they have a demo on how to get Galleria working with it. (Galleria is a free jQuery slideshow, much like SSPFlash).
Cheers!
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proctorsurf wrote:
I am incredibly frustrated....trying to create mobile version of my sites for iPad, iPhone, Droid, etc.
But still the SSP mobile functionality is sorely found wanting in this regard.
I am at a complete loss to understand how such an amazing photo/video gallery solution does not develop something we can deploy to iPad/iPhone.
And no news....no updates...no hope in sight?
I am searching for another option now...but seriously moving all of my galleries and albums at this point makes me cringe.
I just can't believe you guys wouldn't be trying to move forward with the incredible demand for the millions who now use iDevices and other mobile devices for their web browsing and can't use Flash. I am one of those who just loves Flash....but unfortunately, it's abundantly clear Apple has no intention of ever supporting it - hence the desperate need for some updates to SSP.
If anyone out there has any ideas about making this transition...please share.
I absolutely believed after the wonderful experience I've had with SSP for the last 5+ years....that they would be at the groundbreaking forefront of offering something in this regard long ago.
Sad sad sad day for me......
We're with you. Our web designer raved about SSP so we went with it and we love it too. But the limitations when working with the mobile site are daunting. Designer is using WP Touch to work with the mobile site (a WordPress site) and it's coming right along, but the SSP galleries have her stumped. Really a huge bummer for our ecommerce site, which uses our super-cool galleries as navigation tools. Not being able to have a simple active link in the images on mobile as there are on the main site is a real problem. Hope they get on the stick - or someone else does, so we have an option!
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No it is not looking good for slideshowpro users and it is a shame there seems to be no information for customers forthcoming on the site. Thanks for the link to Galleria, it looks interesting.
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You could use the API to pull images into jquery mobile (which works on i devices) but would def be more of a chore than just cut and paste of some embed code.
This product is neglected and will not see any more updates, my prediction.
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For all the frustrated SSP users:
Meteor Slider:
http://www.jleuze.com/plugins/meteor-slides/
Nivo Slider:
http://nivo.dev7studios.com/
http://demo.madebyraygun.com/portfolio-slideshow/
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I'm going to check out the links for galleria and the other sliders above. My main issue is the need to combine videos and photos in slideshows, as well as have linking capability off of the elements so they can be used for navigation.
I found this:
http://www.slidedeck.com/
Pretty great for those of us who use wordpress.
But I'm so shocked that nobody at SSP has even responded to us after being loyal clients for all of these years? It's very odd and mysterious. I can't believe they don't join this discussion and just let us know what they plan to do or not to do so we can make arrangements.
Can't comprehend why they are just leaving us all hanging......
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@proctorsurf
SSP is great product - as we all know...
But SSP's dev attitude at this forums is so horrible that it is doing some rather huge damage to them.
Sure, they have support email, but why be so oblivious to numerous user posts in forums is beyond me...
At very list they should make a sticky post in each thread saying 'we don't care' or something down that line.
In any case - horrible attitude to say at least, which is shame ![]()
I also blame 'flash is dead' idiots including late Steve Jobs for triggering this collapse of SSP - but mainly devs again for being blind sheep and almost certainly Apple freaks...
They should have continued development of Flash version while simultaneously introducing HTML support making that way the best media publishing platform ever.
Instead, they almost double the prices of their products before vanishing and staying quite forever after...
LOL just LOL![]()
Last edited by XXNephilim (2012-06-18 12:20:51)
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"I also blame 'flash is dead' idiots including late Steve Jobs "
*groan*
Dude, give it up. The war is lost, Flash lost.
Which is why Adobe Edge and the new products are running from it (similar interface but not a black box and viewable on iOS, HTML5,etc). Apple and Google line up against you, your tech will lose.
The developer pooping out on this content management system is his prerogative, and ours to get irritated about. Chasing the Religion of Flash is gonna leave you bitter (and eventually alone)
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My post wasn't about Flash but about SSP developers attitude, which is pathetic...
By the way - Flash is here to stay ![]()
Like it or not...
Also, check my HTML site linked in my signature and you will probably realise that I am not blinded like some iOS / Apple freaks are. Both technologies are good and have their place on the net...
SSP developers, like said in my previous post, should have continued development on BOTH sides - HTML and Flash ensuring that way they are serving widest possible market.
Instead they doubled the prices and pissed of...
All facts no one here or there can argue about - including yourself! ![]()
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“The decision to stop development of the Flash Player plugin for mobile browsers was part of a larger strategic shift at Adobe. One which includes a greater shift in focus toward HTML5, as well as the Adobe Creative Cloud and the services that it provides.” Mike Chambers, Adobe developer relations lead
http://mashable.com/2011/11/11/flash-mobile-dead-adobe/
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You are retarded sir - sorry, but you are...
Flash is here to stay on DESKTOP and LAPTOP machines for at least another 10 years.
On mobile it is shifting to APP DEVELOPMENT
Here is road map: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatfo … admap.html
And please stop bothering me with your Apple freak posts.
Thanks
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I run a PC, own a Android, and the only idevice I have is an ancient iphone.
You are a thin-skilled zealot, and have thrown slurs and insults over and over.
Get over it, moron (my first insult)
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You might be running PC and Android but you sound like Apple Freak - and retarded Apple Freak you will remain for me...
Only Apple Freaks can so narrow-mindedly shout 'Flash is Dead' without even doing proper research. Self en-caged and self blinded brain washed lunatics...
I have provided you with the road map in my previous post and few months ago with with most recent Flash penetration which is way above 90% on 10s of millions of desktop and laptop computers around the world.
When it comes down to mobile devices, it is THE ONLY technology that can export apps almost simultaneously to OS X, Windows, iOS, Android and Blackberry (and of course soon to be released Microsoft tablet that will piss over iPad)
I can email you simple test app I have created using Flash and SSP that will run on both - your iPhone and your Android device and on your Windows laptop / desktop - just for a good measure.
Not only that Flash isn't dead - but it is in better form and shape than ever before!
But again, that is beyond the point since point of my previous posts was nothing to do with it but with SSP developers attitude - which, to repeat myself, is nothing short of pathetic...
As an old time SSP customer I think I have full right to express my opinion on it just like I have full right to express my opinion on 'flash is dead' screaming lunatics, like yourself.
Get used to it! ![]()
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"You might be running PC and Android but you sound like Apple Freak - and retarded Apple Freak you will remain for me..."
Dont confuse you with the facts, huh? I am not an Apple freak, just facing facts. And you throw a tantrum.
Wired, Mashable, zdnet (and 429,000,000 other google hits) seem to disagree with you. If that makes me a "freak" I don't know what to say to you.
You need to wake up. They might call it Flash, but it is not that anymore. If you are converting it into an app that is readable on something without the flash player, that is not flash. Adobe tried a PDF-style media embed with the Flash Player. They abused the market by not updating it, sucking memory, and being arrogant and the market (apple and google among them) punished them for it.
The CS6 marketing reflects the retreat from your beloved Flash. Rant at me all you want, as you come off like a fool. When the manufacturers, major search engines, and all the tech publications agree (as well as Abobe itself) that is is dead....maybe it is.
Whatever zombie boy, keep saying it isn't, lol.
other "freaks":
Adobe Admits: Apple Won, Flash For Mobile is Done, HTML5 is the Future http://mashable.com/2011/11/11/flash-mobile-dead-adobe/
Flash is dead. Long live HTML5. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/fl … html5/1633
Adobe Had It Coming: The Long, Slow Goodbye of Mobile Flash http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/11/ … lash-dead/
PS
I am guessing you don't see the irony of saying "I have full right to express my opinion" and for me to"please stop bothering me with your Apple freak posts."
I too have a right to my opinion, you don't like it, I can tell you where to go.
Last edited by brandonguy (2012-06-20 16:38:12)
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Well that is wonder of internet for you, we all have equal rights - so no hard feelings ![]()
As said in previous post, you are Retarded Apple Freak for me who isn't even able to read OFFICIAL ADOBE ROAD MAP in regards to Flash and accept the fact that it is evolving into something way more brilliant than it ever was before!
Only few months ago I was using Flash to create some browser based animations and today, with exactly the same skill set, I am using it to publish MULTI PLATFORM APPS! If that is not genius I don't know what it is...
By the way - some of the top sellers in both Apple and Google app stores are made using Flash.
Oh, and desktop browser version just received full hardware acceleration meaning you can now create console quality games and run them via Flash player... Not to mention full blown 3D sites required by some top clients.
In any case - no point wasting time with Retarded Apple Freaks who are foaming on their mouth while defending their precious little iShits and screaming 'death to flash' ![]()
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You are an idiot. Funniest thing I have read in ages.
"ishits"
Classy.
Guessing (in your frenzy of stupid) you forgot I only have an ancient iphone I test with, and am not even an "Apple guy". But (since I insulted your religion of flash) incurred your wrath.
I also notice you didn't refute a single point in those articles, or that almost 500 million pages online have the phrase "flash is dead".
Ad hominum stupidity from you, nothing else. I hope you are this quick to temper and hyperbole with clients, and bristle at the faintest of slights. Maybe one day I can see you shifting around homeless and hungry, and offer an apple.
Lol
Last edited by brandonguy (2012-06-21 16:14:57)
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Mr Retard,
All your links are talking about Flash being dead for MOBILE BROWSERS!
Who gives a crap about mobile browsers!?!?!
Mobile is about APPLICATIONS not about browsing some heavy multi-media sites on 3.5" screens.
By the way - you can download Flash for Android and if you really insist on seeing sites on small screen you can do that as well... In fact they don't look that bad on my Galaxy Note.
Retard - Flash can PUBLISH MOBILE APS for all platforms and Apps are whats all about.
And yes, you can even embed SSP in them! ![]()
Do you understand!?
As for desktops and laptops it is here to stay for AT LEAST another ten years. You know, the machines that 90% of web is accessed from.
Get out of your little cage and see the bigger picture Apple Freak retard!![]()
PS: Is this your site ---> http://www.beretphoto.com/ <--- I would suggest you express yourself there instead of talking utter garbage on forums. I mean just look at it man! LOL!
Last edited by XXNephilim (2012-06-21 18:14:08)
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Ad hominum stupidity from you, nothing else.
That is not a site I maintain. But (since you don't know how to argue without attacking a person, and not their ideas) I went on yours.
No mobile version and ZERO meta tags. Lol.
Do you even know what a USERAGENT is? Too busy getting hot and bothered with your zombie tech, huh?
How is that for retarded?
Last edited by brandonguy (2012-06-23 20:13:36)
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You are using it as avatar so one can only presume it is your own site, what else could it be for frek sake!?!? ![]()
In case it really isn't your site - why don't you post a link to your portfolio or just a personal web page so we can all see your genius in action!?!
My sites as well as skills are far from perfect but I have no problem showing what I got as well as facing 'flash is dead' mouth foaming apple freak retards like yourself - little crazy maggots ![]()
By the way - my HTML site works perfectly fine on mobile and tablet devices, but no, it doesn't feature responsive design since contents isn't suitable for such approach. Tablet market, one that I care about, can enjoy the site and content no problem while on mobile phones people can always zoom in... As for the SEO, I haven't even started work on it so it clearly can be much better, saying all that it is doing rather nice job as it is.
Looking forward to your reply with the link to your own site and portfolio!
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Oh, and by the way... Microsoft has just decided to support Flash with Windows 8 Metro (RT) tablets and other upcoming portable devices based on it... So that makes it Android, Blackberry and Microsoft ![]()
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/ … cleContent
Quote from the article: "...It's also great to see Microsoft being bold enough to push the conversation on privacy forward by making Do Not Track standard, as well as being able to admit that the web isn't ready to drop Flash just yet..."
Last edited by XXNephilim (2012-06-25 14:16:43)
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"Adobe confirms it won't support Flash on Android 4.1, stops new Flash installs from Google Play on August 15th"
http://m.engadget.com/2012/06/28/adobe- … droid-4-1/
(yet another) bullet in the head of your beloved dead tech
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I have never seen someone so retarded! LOL ![]()
Beating the same moron-drum as always... hahahaha
Mobile is about APPLICATIONS and not about browsing some heavy multimedia websites!
You can use FLASH to CREATE such APPLICATIONS and THAT IS FUTURE of the Flash on Mobile and really, mobile in general... applications! Not websites!
On desktops / laptops / netbooks however, Flash is here to stay for another 10 YEARS AT LEAST.
Desktops/ laptops / netbooks, by the way, are machines well over 90% of general web related 'hits' are coming from.
There is no point linking non-sense articles when I linked you with OFFICIAL ADOBE ROAD MAP where everything is explained in absolute detail - here it comes again, just in case:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatfo … admap.html
But your brain is probably way to narrow to look and see outside of box - poor thing... ![]()
Also, why don't you link us up with your own portfolio and site???
Nothing to show???
Talking the talk and not walking the walk???
Thought so...
:p
Last edited by XXNephilim (2012-06-29 19:23:49)
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The reason I NOW need a non-flash solution for displaying great looking photo galleries online, is that over 85% of my clients are demanding it and 40% of those also want it to be responsive.
For me the argument on whether flash is dead or not is pointless. My paying customers DON'T want Adobe Flash, so should I argue the toss with them and tell them they are wrong, or call them stupid for using Apple products?
No, of course not.
Whether right or wrong the tide of public opinion (well the ones that contact me for work) want me to redesign their sites without flash and to work well on all mobile platforms.
Some of my corporate clients have already moved to iPads for their sales-force. Others have told me that they will be moving to tablet based devices and want me to demonstrate presentation solutions that are HTML 5 based.
So the future for ME is not going to be based on Adobe Flash, so please SlideShowPro just let us know what's in your future road map. Because your silence on the subject means I for one will be looking elsewhere.
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i combined mine with photoswipe...here'a working sample to be looked at with regular browsers..
http://www.hermanvangestel.com/mob/iphone.php
or go directly with your iphone/ipad to http://www.hermanvangestel.com/
is this what you mean?
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Herman,
Photoswipe is cool. I like it because you can feed it whatever size images you want. I am guessing with a useragent detect you could use Director API to feed huge pics for a retinal view if needed. I am working on a jquery mobile build but sadly the touch events break photoswipe when jquery mobile is sitting on the same php.
Codecanyon has a nice useragent detector so you can lightbox images for desktops and use something like photoswipe for mobile traffic.
And don't waste your time engaging that Flasheriffic tool, he has shown it is a waste of time.
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i made a version "run once - run all" so it run all at once on iPhone, iPad and normal computer browser..it automatically request on the fly the proper sizes from SSP and is dynamic...it's all now only 1 interface...saves time
SSP Director is great! It now saves time with so many images...
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XXNephilim wrote:
@proctorsurf
I also blame 'flash is dead' idiots including late Steve Jobs for triggering this collapse of SSP - but mainly devs again for being blind sheep and almost certainly Apple freaks...
The "'flash is dead' idiots" as you call them aren't necessarily Apple users like you say. Thats just a moronic condescending statement to people of whom you don't even know the depth of intelligence and it implies that all Windows users are the brains. Laughable. Steve Jobs (with all his idiosyncrasies) was just one of many irritated with Adobe's stagnation. He was just honest enough to voice his opinion. Adobe fell short of developing a mobile version of its CPU hog Flash application that didn't support touch. Adobe fell asleep at the wheel for a good ten+ years on all their applications but now even they are producing software for the eminent migration.
No, Flash's real enemy is the search engine and the SEOs paid by clients to make them visible. The common SEO request is to "migrate away from Flash" ASAP even in the era of social advertising. Just as you are customer of Adobe and its Flash application, the "real" end customer is the client. When clients migrate away from Flash the money to develop in Flash dries up regardless of how much better "you" think the platform is.
Sticking with the Beta vs VHS argument is simply more money in my pocket. The business of stripping out Flash has been a bigger business in the last two years then developing it.
From a security point of view... Flash is a nightmare. Most informed security people prefer to NOT to run Flash on their networks and personal systems for this reason.
Last edited by gepkes (2013-04-17 06:42:43)
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At the beginning for the first IPad it was a hardware+battery limitation problem but for example the BB Playbook plays Flash. Today the devices are much more faster, have more memory, better battery. Adobe should develop a "light" version of Flash just able to play videos and photos galleries. To develop a website in Flash today becomes obsolete. It's just a humble opinion.
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